https://jw-russia.org/en/news/19021923-622.html.
at least seven of jehovah’s witnesses were subjected to torture—electric shocks, suffocation, and cruel beatings—on the first floor of the russian investigative committee’s building at ul.
ostrovskogo, d. 47, in surgut.
Does the US torture people because of religious beliefs? I think the majority of those at Guantanamo Bay are of all the same religion? So do you think the US will be that quick to lodge a complaint against Russia in the Watchtower with its sullied reputation as a mind control cult that is abusive to its members?
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/dec/09/cia-torture-methods-waterboarding-sleep-deprivation
https://jw-russia.org/en/news/19021923-622.html.
at least seven of jehovah’s witnesses were subjected to torture—electric shocks, suffocation, and cruel beatings—on the first floor of the russian investigative committee’s building at ul.
ostrovskogo, d. 47, in surgut.
All governments have problems with human rights if they get in the way of what a government wants to do, heck in 13 countries around the world you can be executed for not having faith.
To me that is something to be more concerned about than if some loyal JWs get beat up by police to get information on a outlawed religion imported from the USA to Russia a country that the US has been on unfriendly terms for 60+ years.
Everybody does not have the same values, and priorities. Mine are different perhaps because I don't really care if in one country they have different laws about religion and one cannot practice his religion as directed by some foreign printing corporation that hopes to make profit in a foreign land. The world is what it is and my feeling sorry for the poor JWs getting ill treatment doesn't do very much good for these poor people,. I hope the whole religion goes bell up with less trauma for the JWs but what good does that do for anybody?
https://jw-russia.org/en/news/19021923-622.html.
at least seven of jehovah’s witnesses were subjected to torture—electric shocks, suffocation, and cruel beatings—on the first floor of the russian investigative committee’s building at ul.
ostrovskogo, d. 47, in surgut.
It is more like we have different moral compasses pointing us in different directions.
https://jw-russia.org/en/news/19021923-622.html.
at least seven of jehovah’s witnesses were subjected to torture—electric shocks, suffocation, and cruel beatings—on the first floor of the russian investigative committee’s building at ul.
ostrovskogo, d. 47, in surgut.
But that doesn't excuse what the Russian police did to these people. Seems like you want to get off on their suffering because some people an entire world away made you suffer too.
The police are doing what the government told them to do, and governments sometimes tell them to beat some body up to get information it has been happening for thousands of years. But I don't recall anybody on this thread giving any indication they are "getting off" on their suffering it is more like some people are blowing way out of proportion what some people have wrote, from what I recall some only said they really weren't that concerned about their plight,, I being one.
I think why should I care what happens to JWs because religious persecution in another country especially when the Watchtower seems to attract such persecution from the lame ass stupid stuff they write about governments and other religions in their publications. I'm tons more concerned about that,, then any heat they draw from writing such utter bullshit.
The way I see it the WT corporation really gets off on this type of stuff and like the letter writing champagne to Malawi officials and Hitler during WW2, all designed to whip things up in the name of corporate Jehovah and bring misery to their sheep while the corporate big wigs(GB) sit back behind a desk at comfortable headquarters and watch and plot how to get the most mileage from the situation..
https://jw-russia.org/en/news/19021923-622.html.
at least seven of jehovah’s witnesses were subjected to torture—electric shocks, suffocation, and cruel beatings—on the first floor of the russian investigative committee’s building at ul.
ostrovskogo, d. 47, in surgut.
So how do all the bleeding hearts for JWs persecuted in a Russia feel about the USA's CIA torturing or enhanced interrogation techniques, used on suspects at Guantanamo Bay? Personally I feel about the same way the only difference is I'm from the US, and they were probably captured not in the US and were brought to Cuba were they could be tortured and not violate any US laws.
https://jw-russia.org/en/news/19021923-622.html.
at least seven of jehovah’s witnesses were subjected to torture—electric shocks, suffocation, and cruel beatings—on the first floor of the russian investigative committee’s building at ul.
ostrovskogo, d. 47, in surgut.
I hope both of you have a happy life and nothing untoward happen to you.
And best wishes to you too.
my wife and i were in edinburgh on saturday (did a ghost tour) and around dusk we passed two trolleys on the high street — aka 'the royal mile' — that both had two rows of led lights under the little shelves.
has anybody else seen this or is it a local innovation?
i'm happy to report their pimped-up trolleys were attracting no attention as usual.
The light becomes brighter/foggier and brighter/foggier till the Watchtower corporation finally goes bankrupt. Which will then exterminate these bull shit flinging devises from being a public eye sore.
https://jw-russia.org/en/news/19021923-622.html.
at least seven of jehovah’s witnesses were subjected to torture—electric shocks, suffocation, and cruel beatings—on the first floor of the russian investigative committee’s building at ul.
ostrovskogo, d. 47, in surgut.
Thank you I typed it in my search engine and couldn't find anything except about the union jack and I agree to a limited extent as would any normal human I guess. We humans have got as far as we have by a me first type viewing the plight of others it is just some of us may be come by denial not be able to see it in our selves, and project it on to a easy hook.
https://jw-russia.org/en/news/19021923-622.html.
at least seven of jehovah’s witnesses were subjected to torture—electric shocks, suffocation, and cruel beatings—on the first floor of the russian investigative committee’s building at ul.
ostrovskogo, d. 47, in surgut.
All the fact seem to show that man is becoming more and more civilized and less prone to acts of violence. Hey civilizations started about 10,000 years ago in the fertile crecent when we learned farming our dna is a little slow in catching up, so it is still in our nature to do violence eventually this might change if it gives us no significant advantage at survival but now it seems to be bubbling up in Russia. I actually have hope that someday we lose this violent nature as a way to handling problems but I'm afraid it may take a few more hundred years or maybe sooner I hope(nanotechnology looks promising).
https://jw-russia.org/en/news/19021923-622.html.
at least seven of jehovah’s witnesses were subjected to torture—electric shocks, suffocation, and cruel beatings—on the first floor of the russian investigative committee’s building at ul.
ostrovskogo, d. 47, in surgut.
Acts of brutality such as these are never justified - no matter what the circumstances.
Tell that to the governments of the world they seem to think it can be justified, say, defending some ideology called freedom be it what ever they call freedom.
I personal do not condone violence and might be loosely termed a pacifist for myself but in terms of what governments need to do survive I'm not nieve as to the dangers to stay in power. I know human nature and what the other guy is capable to do to gain power. So I can't say I agree with this statement.
A bloody good example of what the navy calls "The Jack Club"
i.e. "I'm all-right, Jack. F$^k You!
How is it a good example with what ever you call it?
